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9 responses to “Possible Silver U-Turn Report, 7 Feb”

  1. “Defaults are surely coming.”
    This is becoming a sort of conventional wisdom. It would certainly be true for the smallest, most recent and most leveraged oil drillers or those unable to bring their costs down. But industry analysts are sending a different message:

    “According to the consultancy Wood MacKenzie, the cash cost of US¹s shale oil is at US$15 per barrel and even at a price of US$30 per barrel, only 6% of production worldwide fails to cover its average variable costs and faces shutdown. Moreover, the US shale oil industry has been becoming more productive, with a well in the Bakken region originally producing 200 barrels a day in 2011 now producing close to 700 barrels a day, reckons ANZ commodity strategist Victor Thianpiriya.”

    Granted, so of those economies have come at the cost of shutdowns, whose secondary effects are to bring down region economies and bankrupt the drilling and shipping support structure there. I’m just not yet seeing this as sufficiently broad a problem to be the cause of major collapse. Look to EMs, and the secondary effects of international trade shutting down for that kind of destabilizing influence.

  2. Thanks Keith. Yes, the Baltic dry Index is somethng out of a horror movie that never ends. I look forward to you insights tomorrow as I am on the line as to whether to accrue because the bottom has set or hold my powder dry.

    I sincerely think the bloodbath in the equities market has not truly begun. I think we need to see major corrections that will see the broader markets lose up to half of their value. When those days come, I think that PMs will share their fate. I’m just a little concerned about central banks becoming interventionistic, (like we haven’t seen enough of that already).
    Best,
    Theo

  3. Thank you for the update Keith.

    The Italian banks also look like something out of a horror movie, down about 30% in 1 month.
    Could this all not spiral out of control very quickly ?

  4. Thanks for your comments.

    Greg: what about the fixed costs, most especially including debt service? If variable costs are low, then that supports the case for cheap oil to stay with us. Bankruptcy will not stop the oil flowing…

    Agreed re: EMs including especially China.

    Btw, Swiss 15-year yield < 0 again. Theosebes: It is possible that gold owners will sell to speculate on a further rise in the dollar. jmf: it sure could.

  5. What happened? It looks like you posted very different data for the same dates (Nov 7) in two different reports.

    In your Nov 8 report you showed extremely low numbers as of Nov 7th for the basis:
    -0.8% for Gold (-2.6% for Silver) for Nov 7. In your Feb 7 report you showed much smaller numbers as of Nov 7th for the basis: -0.05% for Gold (-0.05% for silver).
    Which of these is correct? Did something get restated?
    Milo

  6. Thanks. Since the basis (and co-basis) depends on the contract, would it be appropriate to identify the contract being used for each metal as part of the graph?

  7. In your “Introduction” (9/8/2013), you define basis (and co-basis) as a difference in dollar prices. You also say “Basis and co-basis are the annualized returns for carry and decarry. Quoting them as annualized returns helps put them in perspective.” Q. Exactly how are those future-spot dollar-price differences converted into annualized returns?

  8. “Since the basis (and co-basis) depends on the contract, would it be appropriate to identify the contract being used for each metal as part of the graph?”

    General version of specific answer, Gold and Silver contracts are structured differently. They operate on what are called close enough to be appropriate time and amount principles (interesting topic) but different nonetheless. If you trust Keith’s word, I think the graphs are reliable. They are more a quarterly unveiling than a prediction

    What I would like to see is a dollar portrait: beginning of quarter (one for gold one for silver) Tonnage of metal on hand. Tonnage of metal to be sold. . Tonnage promised to be delivered.

    Aggregated. Break it down by warehouse or wherever they connect bars to the spot price.. Then we could all do math.

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