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14 responses to “Partial Silver Crash, Report 9 October, 2016”

  1. Let’s see now,

    surging overnight repo rates (per Bloomberg)
    The average level of overnight general collateral repo traded with ICAP was 0.847 percent Thursday morning, the highest since October “2008.”

    a developing banking crisis,

    a gold dump, “some real metal came to market…”

    Ho hum……..

  2. Very coincidental that the large price drop coincided with China`s main markets being closed for the entire previous week. The gold price Sunday night looks to now be staging a minor rebound.

    I get these numbers:
    Gold Dec’16 Cobasis: -0.672%
    Gold Dec’16 Basis: 0.528%

    From these numbers:
    Spot Bid: $1,261.94
    Spot Ask: $1,262.24
    Oct 10 2016 00:21:45 EDT

    Gold Dec’16 Future Bid: $1,263.70
    Gold Dec’16 Future Ask: $1,263.80
    Days Till Expiration: 80
    Oct 10 2016 00:21:45 EDT
    Dollar = 24.647mg of gold

    When your red and green lines move together it is speculation, when they diverge it is fundamental. With the dollar down, with the cobasis up it must be a fundamental move Sunday night, if every so slight. I guess that makes China a fundamental driver of price?

  3. I saw the same “China is shut down for the week” story on ZH. Makes me wonder if that may be a yearly play in silver. Once a year the Chinese take the week off and “the bottom falls out of the market”. Remind me to short silver early next October. /s
    Thanks again, Keith. Be well!
    Theo

  4. Another BS in this weekly report : nearly anybody saw a correction after the huge rise of the first half of the year.
    In capitalism it is specualtor who determines the price of everything and anything and that is a process full of intrigues for sure…
    this website is now entering into a permabear attitude the symmetric of the permabull attitude because his fundamentals theory has been given to him by God himself !

  5. How does the scarcity in silver increase yet the fundamental price drop by another $1.5?

    Following on from RD, from a purely investment point of view, when in the last 12 months would you have recommende being a buyer of either metal? If not yet, then what do you say about missing the huge move in winter/spring?

    1. It was funny that 2013 precious metals paper massacre was also/done also when china was closed for one week ie twice a year. Quite low odds in term of probability that it happens twice (and maybe more) within the last few years.

    2. Keith does not typically issue buy or sell directions. But if you read the +/- difference between his “fundamental” price and the spot market price as a sell/buy signal of greater or lesser magnitude, you, like I, would have booked a solid gain. Acting primarily as a “stacker” – still hoarding for retirement or future lean years, I appreciate the chance to buy metal when it is below its fundamental price. Last week’s drop was tempting, but I also found that my local coin shop had become well-stocked of a sudden. When the delta to fundamental price rivals the spreads on physical in actual shops, that is the point where I’d say you can convert Keith’s readings directly into buy/sell orders. You’d have been buying in the Springtime.

      1. Mr Weiner issued some strong sell comments (even on the weekly tites on commentaries) on silver for months, even a 3 years kid could understand that.
        It is not his constant disclaimer on the central banker’s actions or other BS which would change anything : indeed the same could be said on any markets or products.
        An example could be : strong sell of bananas except if something creates a sudden rise of bananas demand or a great fall of its supply.
        As pure capitalists there is only one rule : if your indicator says sell you have to sell…

        1. “Mr Weiner issued some strong sell comments” – I call BS. I’ve been reading these commentaries for months and never seen any such comments from Keith. If you think you have, it’s your problem.

          As for his being a supposed permabear: What part of his saying, “Never naked-short a monetary metal”, do you not understand?

          I’ll spell it out for you. If you never naked-short (following his suggestion)….then you are never net-short…meaning that you are always either net-neutral or net-long (if partially hedged)…meaning that Keith’s basic disposition is to be long. There are merely some moments that are ideal for entering (if speculators have pushed the market into discount mode), and other moments that are not as ideal or where some hedging might be indicated (if speculators have pushed the market into frothiness).

        2. Just last week, Keith said of silver, “Yes, the fundamentals call for a price $3.30 below the market price. This does not mean to go out and short silver (we never recommend naked shorting a monetary metal). It does not mean that the price of silver will drop immediately…”

          RD, what part of “never” and “not”, do you not understand?

          1. Mr Weiner described silver recently as a “ponzi scheme” but write never short a monetary metals, so that Mr Weiner is always right as other banking merchants.
            I will copy another post :
            Silver is crashing : he is a genius (creator of his formula).
            Silver is rising (first 2016 half) and he is wrong : it is because of ponzi speculators.
            For permabulls : silver is rising : they are genius, they have the right formula.
            Silver is crashing : it is because of comex cartel of nasty speculators.

    1. Yeah, like all sellers and merchants the success are more touted than failures !
      Silver is crashing : he is a genius (creator of his formula).
      Silver is rising (first 2016 half) and he is wrong : it is because of ponzi speculators.
      For permabulls : silver is rising : they are genius, they have the right formula.
      Silver is crashing : it is because of comex cartel of nasty speculators.
      Both sounds familiar ?

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